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whimsicalname · 27/10/2012 19:08

I just bought a second hand bread machine with no instruction manual. Whilst I've got the hang of a few recipes, I'm still at a loss as to what order to put the ingredients in in. Someone said I should put liquid in first, but this seems counter intuitive.

It's a US brand which they don't have in the UK (and don't have instructions for on line, annoyingly).

Any ideas?

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NorbertDentressangle · 27/10/2012 19:11

I put it in in this order: yeast, flour, salt, sugar, oil and then water.

That's how they tell you to do it in the Panasonic booklet that comes with the machine

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IamtheZombie · 27/10/2012 19:14

Zombie also has a Panasonic. All the recipes have the liquid ingredients in first, followed by the flour and then the salt, sugar and yeast.

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KirstyJC · 27/10/2012 19:19

I have a Panasonic, and the instruction leaflet order is the same as Norberts - liquid last. Although I discovered recently that DH has been doing it the other way around for at least 3 years with no apparent difference - so I don't really think it matters!

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IamtheZombie · 27/10/2012 19:26

Sorry, it's a Kenwood, not a Panasonic. The instruction booklet says to always put the water in first followed by the other ingredients in the order listed in the recipes. All the recipes have the liquids listed first as I said in my previous post.

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whimsicalname · 27/10/2012 20:33

Interesting! I might just try water first one day. You know, when I'm feeling reckless.Thank-you all.

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CogitoEerilySpooky · 28/10/2012 10:25

I have a Panasonic and, despite the instructions saying water last, I put in water first, the dry ingredients on top and then make a little dent in the flour for the yeast. Makes lovely bread and I'm sure it'd be just as lovely the other way around as well. If I'm setting the delay timer to make a loaf the next day I think keeping the yeast dry until it gets started makes sense.

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hellhasnofurylikeahungrywoman · 28/10/2012 10:27

I have a Panasonic and have been doing it the wrong way round (water first) for years without problems. I recently did it the correct way and couldn't tell the difference.

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Themobstersknife · 28/10/2012 10:33

I have a Morphy Richards and it is water first and yeast last. The key is to stop the yeast starting to react with the water before the mixing starts. So if you put the water in last and immediately started the machine, you would be fine. But if you wanted to delay the start, you are better to put the water in first and let the other ingredients soak into it, and then put the yeast on top and it is less likely to start reacting. I think anyway.

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tb · 28/10/2012 20:48

The main thing is to keep the yeast away from the salt as that will kill it.

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ivykaty44 · 29/10/2012 10:35

I have had both a machine that listed to put the water in first, and a machine that lists the water last. As others have said it is about keeping the salt and yeast apart - so placing the flour and water inbetween is ideal.

I had an LG and used a couple of panasonic recipes I found online and they worked well on the small loaf size

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SeveredCabbage · 29/10/2012 10:38

I put them in in the order they come out the cupboard.

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4merlyknownasSHD · 29/10/2012 11:13

My Morphy Richards says put the wet ingredients in first, and the yeast last. BUT, I don't use it now, I bake by hand and you start off by activating the yeast in the water before adding the flour or, if using the half-sponge method, mixing half the flour, all the water and all the yeast together, only adding the other half of the flour 6-8 hours later. I don't think there is any hard and fast rule so long as you keep the yeast away from the salt for as long as possible. In defence of the manufacturers of all these machines, you have to put instructions because people expect them.

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whimsicalname · 02/11/2012 00:19

Well, I tell you, water in first with my bread machine is a revelation. It's made a corker of a loaf.

The only problem is that I use cup measures, and usually use the 2 cups of water in at the end to rinse it round. Now I need to find another cup measure so that the flour doesn't stick to the cup. But I imagine that's not insurmountable.

Thank you all for your input.

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McHappyPants2012 · 04/11/2012 14:46

Sorry to hijack the thread, but after the maker has done all the hardwork before it starts baking do you remove the padel

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whimsicalname · 05/11/2012 00:38

No, I just let it bake with it in. That way I get to pick bits off while it's hot.

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Beanbagz · 05/11/2012 16:11

I have a Panasonic and the recipe book states wet ingredients first. That's the way i've always done it in the machine.

Hand made however it dry ingredients into a large mixing bowl, then add the wet.

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Bread machine: wet or dry ingredients first? | Mumsnet? ›

Manufacturers usually recommend adding the liquids first, followed by dry ingredients, with the yeast going in last. This keeps the yeast away from the liquid ingredients until kneading begins.

Do you put liquid or solid first in a bread machine? ›

Generally, our bread machine troubleshooting suggestion is to add liquids first, followed by the dry ingredients.

Do dry or wet ingredients go first? ›

What: Mix dry ingredients together first. They're all going into the same baking pan anyway, right? Well, yes. BUT whether you are making cookies, muffins, cake, or pancakes, the general rule of baking is that dry ingredients should be combined together thoroughly in one bowl BEFORE you add the wet ingredients.

What order do you put ingredients in a Panasonic bread maker? ›

If your breadmaker has no yeast dispenser, add the yeast into your bread pan first. Then add all remaining ingredients (top-to-bottom order) into your bread pan.

What is the best order to put ingredients in a bread machine? ›

Adding Ingredients to the Bread Machine

Manufacturers usually recommend adding the liquids first, followed by dry ingredients, with the yeast going in last. This keeps the yeast away from the liquid ingredients until kneading begins.

Do you put water or flour in breadmaker first? ›

By putting the yeast in first and the water in after the flour, this ensures that the yeast does not become active too soon. The flour is acting as a barrier.

What is the correct order to place the wet and dry ingredients in when setting up a station for a standard breading procedure? ›

Set Up the Stations

Fill three bowls or dishes large enough to hold the food you are breading with each ingredient—flour in the first, the egg wash in the second, and the breadcrumbs in the third.

Does the order of adding ingredients matter? ›

When in doubt, you should usually abide by the combining orders of the recipe you're following because the author may have a specific reason for writing it that way, whether or not the reasoning is clear to you. But if you end up doing it the wrong way around, don't despair.

Why should you sift the dry ingredients before mixing with wet ingredients? ›

No matter what you're baking, you should always whisk your dry ingredients before combining them with the wet. Sifting really ensures just one thing: zero clumps. Clumps won't fully hydrate from your wet ingredients, which can lead to dry pockets in your baked goods.

What does a bread machine do first? ›

First, the bread maker combines the ingredients and kneads the dough with a paddle that connects to the bottom of the bread pan. Once the first kneading is complete, a heating element provides just enough warmth for the dough to rise without baking it.

Do you beat eggs before adding to bread machine? ›

First of all, the stirring function of the bread makers is not sufficient to completely mix the eggs so it is better to beat the eggs before adding them into the bread pan.

When to add mix-ins to bread machine? ›

In order to keep these things from being shredded or mashed during the kneading cycles, add them at the end of the second kneading cycle, about 3 minutes before the machine is due to go into its first rise. This gives the machine time to knead your additions into the dough, but doesn't give it time to tear them apart.

How do the ingredients in bread work together? ›

Enzymes get to work in the dough breaking the starch down into simple sugars. The yeast consumes the simple sugars and lets out carbon dioxide and ethanol. The carbon dioxide gets trapped in the gluten network and the bubbles expand. The dough rises and becomes full of air.

Why is my bread machine not mixing the ingredients? ›

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Cause: Typical of too much flour (or other dry ingredients) or not enough liquid. Here's what you can try doing to improve your loaf: Reducing your flour* or increasing your liquid. When the dough is too dry, add ingredients like nuts and raisins cannot penetrate the dough ball.

Does it matter what kind of yeast you use in a bread machine? ›

Bread machine yeast and rapid-rise yeast are specially formulated for the bread machine and become active more quickly than active dry yeast. You can use active dry yeast in your bread machine, but it should be dissolved in water before being used.

When to add add-ins to bread machine? ›

If you add the mix-ins too early, they will essentially cut up the gluten strands of the dough. Just remember, mix and autolyse first, then add mix-ins.

What is the first step in bread making? ›

Directions
  1. Step 1: Proof the yeast. Before you can get to mixing and kneading, it's important to proof the yeast. ...
  2. Step 2: Mix the bread dough. ...
  3. Step 3: Knead the bread dough. ...
  4. Step 4: Proof the dough. ...
  5. Step 5: Punch down and proof again. ...
  6. Step 6: Bake and enjoy.
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Do you use warm or cold water in a bread maker? ›

Yeast needs a warm (but not hot) environment to grow in, and for this reason, all liquids added to the bread machine (including eggs) should be at room temperature. Water is a common ingredient, but since many people use the timer on their bread machines, most recipes call for non-fat dry milk or powdered buttermilk.

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